tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077063.post2055646825977586958..comments2024-02-16T08:32:46.618+00:00Comments on Donald Clark Plan B: Sue Palmer - reply to replyDonald Clarkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00796341486328270474noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077063.post-45146774451665567022009-10-11T18:10:56.813+00:002009-10-11T18:10:56.813+00:00great debate folks. I am currently studying a few ...great debate folks. I am currently studying a few chapters in the 'book'. Would tend to agree with the remarks about evidence at the moment.<br /><br />keep up the commentsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077063.post-5658886820073139102009-08-12T11:19:50.790+00:002009-08-12T11:19:50.790+00:00A draw! I give a long set of arguments, with quote...A draw! I give a long set of arguments, with quotes, and Sue replies 'I'm far too busy to debate'.<br /><br />If that's a draw, no wonder education has become what one Minister for Education described as an 'evidence free zone'.Donald Clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00796341486328270474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077063.post-41509348248669004852009-08-12T11:10:44.925+00:002009-08-12T11:10:44.925+00:00I think we have a draw here.I think we have a draw here.Rob Altonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09785971735704435962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077063.post-4755397430306700012009-08-10T15:45:49.949+00:002009-08-10T15:45:49.949+00:00Hi Miguel
"anglo-euro-middle-class-centrist p...Hi Miguel<br />"anglo-euro-middle-class-centrist perspective" - ME!Donald Clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00796341486328270474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077063.post-29233593797892234702009-08-10T01:43:52.975+00:002009-08-10T01:43:52.975+00:00Dear Mr Clark and Ms Palmer, I invite you to remem...Dear Mr Clark and Ms Palmer, I invite you to remember the immortal words of that magnificent sage of the last century, Forrest Gump: "Life is like a box of chocolates"... so deep are his words that I still don´t quite get what he meant by that, but I´m sure that two such brilliant (and enormous, I guess based on the size of your heads) will be able to bring out the light from such an utterance. You both seem to have so much in common that you should really try to work this out some other way. On the other hand, you are equally witty on your resposts to each other that maybe we´ll be better off encouraging to continue your debate (?) for the on going enterteinment of us, the partially-read, not so fully employed (nor idle), but nevertheless gagging for comedy of a different level. Keep it up, please. C´mon Sue... it can´t really take THAT MUCH of your time... I´m sure Donald will be game. And, at times like this, I could do with the entertainment. As for education, the media, technology and all the rest... well, it still fascinates me that theories, points-of-view, or social-development opinions reached form an anglo-euro-middle-class-centrist perspective are not posed with a little more... humility? But then, that´s just me. Do, please, keep it up. It is truly better than TV.<br /><br />Thanks.MiguelAngel Gonzaleznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21077063.post-18582816587037672662009-08-07T17:33:34.620+00:002009-08-07T17:33:34.620+00:00Hi there Donald. This is a reply to your reply to...Hi there Donald. This is a reply to your reply to my reply. But it's both brief and final because, sadly, I still have to earn a living and therefore don't have time to attend, read, listen, watch and comment except during my hols. And they're very nearly over. <br /><br />So I'm just logging in to rejoice that, despite our obvious differences, we seem to have a great deal in common. We both feel pretty passionately about social injustice, esp the problems of children from disadvantaged backgrounds (sorry my description of the saddest cases offends you, but I see them all too often and that's what they end up like if they don't get 'warm-but-firm' parenting -- it's tragic). We both cite evidence to support our arguments (me by trawling the plethora of research, news stories and other writing about childhood; you by quoting decontextualised snippets from my books). We're both impressed by Judith Rich Harris's work (if you glance back at 21st C Boys, which you seem to've read less assiduously than Toxic, you'll notice I reference her quite a bit in Chapter 5 -- she's ace). And we both hate wholesale application of whole language teaching methods (I campaigned against it vociferously in the early 90s, despite being spat upon by many colleagues in education). I utterly agree with you that it was heavily implicated in many of the problems we have in the UK with literacy teaching, and was particularly poisonous for children from disadvantaged homes.<br /><br />In the circs, I'm sure I'd really enjoy having a drink with you and chatting about it all. But since we live at different ends of the country, that's not really on. And, as mentioned above, I don't have time for virtual debate. So I'll just have to agree to differ on some things, esp our attitude to new technology. <br /><br />Please believe me that I've no problems with it per se. I really do love it. But my experience and ten years of research convince me that children need to live in and learn from the real world and real people before they're socially, emotionally and cognitively equipped to use technology wisely. <br /><br />Good luck with Plan B. <br />Sue (Palmer)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17046546590920818771noreply@blogger.com